{"id":66,"date":"2010-12-20T15:30:13","date_gmt":"2010-12-20T15:30:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.esearing.com\/pond\/?p=66"},"modified":"2012-01-30T13:04:07","modified_gmt":"2012-01-30T13:04:07","slug":"bottom-drain-decisions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.esearing.com\/pond\/2010\/12\/bottom-drain-decisions\/","title":{"rendered":"Bottom Drain Decisions"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_67\" style=\"width: 181px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.esearing.com\/pond\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/tetrabottomdrain.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-67\" class=\"size-full wp-image-67\" title=\"tetra-bottom-drain\" src=\"http:\/\/www.esearing.com\/pond\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/tetrabottomdrain.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"171\" height=\"135\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-67\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tetra Retro fit Bottom Drain<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Since my pond was planned at 4 feet deep I knew I needed a bottom drain to suck out debris from the floor of the pond and to help maintain water quality. I had read about installing permanent drains with 4&#8243; tubing and how to cement them in place and had overcome my fear about a bottom drain leak.<\/p>\n<p>However, after hitting solid rock and getting really tired of digging I decided to use a retro fit drain instead. This sits on the bottom and has a 2&#8243; pipe which goes from the inside of your pond, over the edge, to the pump . Of course I made a couple of mistakes when installing.<\/p>\n<p>The directions said to fill the body of the drain with concrete to weight it down. I did not have concrete so I used sand. I then glued on the cap as instructed. It floated. There was more air than I thought even with the sand. So i drilled two small holes and added water until it wouldn&#8217;t hold any more. I then had to fill the holes and cover them so the water and sand would not leak out.<\/p>\n<p>The second mistake is assuming my walls were 90 degrees square to the bottom. More like 110 degrees so when I test fit my plumbing it stuck way out into the pond. I then decided this would not work and purchased a few feet of non-kink pipe so I could bend it where I wanted it. Now I have this ugly pipe coming over the side of the pond that I had not planned for.<\/p>\n<p>To fix the ugly pipe issue I purchased another bulkhead, barbed fitting and more PVC threaded parts and elbows. Installing a bulkhead near the skimmer after the lining has been burried and fit to the skimmer was a bit of a challenge.<\/p>\n<p>In the end it all worked out but you can see the piping leading to the drain. In time I am sure this will be covered with &#8220;pond patina&#8221; (aka Algae). I think I can also use the bulkhead with a pool vac once a year to do a thorough bottom cleaning.<\/p>\n<p>One other design flaw which I am not sure there is a way around yet. I ran my piping from the Skimmer and bottom drain through valves into a wye  which then feeds the pump. If my water level drops below the skimmer I lose syphon. I can close the skimmer and keep it going but I think I may need to add a backflow\/check valve or  a shut off device on the skimmer in case of sudden water loss.<\/p>\n<p>UPDATE: I later changed the plumbing from skimmer and Bottom drain to a simple 3 way valve near the skimmer. I do plan to add a pump to the skimmer<br \/>\nat some point. My next pond will have a proper 4&#8243; bottom drain going to an external settlement chamber\/filter.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since my pond was planned at 4 feet deep I knew I needed a bottom drain to suck out debris from the floor of the pond and to help maintain water quality. 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